Don't Close your Eyes

Jack Stoner · Post by **Jack Stoner** » 15 Jun 1999 6:31 am

This may be off topic here, but what is the correct chords to the song??? I seem to hear both IV and IIm chords in there (along with the VIm) but other's say there's no IIm in it??

Jon Smorada · Post by **Jon Smorada** » 15 Jun 1999 8:12 am

Jack,

I'll give it a listen to and let you know. There is definitely a ii in it, just not sure where it occurs.

Terry Williams · Post by **Terry Williams** » 16 Jun 1999 3:34 am

say you in g when you say, i know you loved
2m 5 l 5with f#bass 6m 5 l 4 5 1 5withf#bass
6m 2m 5 4walk back to l
the bridge 4 5 l 5withf#bass 6m 2m 5 l 5/f#bass 6m 2m 5 4walk back to l
the f# bass with the 5 cord is the bass player playing a third, just be sure the guitar plays a straight d cord NOT a seventh

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Jack Stoner · Post by **Jack Stoner** » 16 Jun 1999 4:18 am

Terry, I like that. Thanks.

I've got another version that was sent to me that doesn't have the IIm in it. But, after looking at it, either way could be considered correct.

It would be nice to get the session chart to see what they really did on the session. I have a Keith Whitley tape with that song on it. The band I worked with in KC didn't use the IIm, but one of those things that bugs you till you get the right progression.

Jon Smorada · Post by **Jon Smorada** » 16 Jun 1999 6:48 am

In most cases you can substitute a 4 for a 2m, a 5 for a 3m and a 1 for a 6m. I'll try to graphically illustrate:

In the key of C:
<font size="3" face="monospace"><pre>
1: C E G
2m: D [F A C] = 2m7
3m: E [G B D] = 3m7
4: F A C
5: G B D
6m: A [C E G] = 6m7
</pre></font>

This substitution makes it easy to tackle the minors. Basic rule of thumb is, when you need a minor, just go up two, i.e. when you need 2m, think 4. When you need a 6m, think 1 (6+2=8, an octave). I know it's cheating, but it works about 99% of the time and guitar players are amazed at how quickly you can learn the changes.

BTW, Jeff Newman showed me this little trick.

Bill Terry · Post by **Bill Terry** » 16 Jun 1999 7:19 am

Jon,
You just showed me what I have been doing a long time makes some theoretical sense. I've always just trusted my ears and had somehow stumbled onto the 'cheating' technique you described long ago.

I'll file this under the 'do you read music? Not enough to hurt my playing' category.

Thanks for the insight...

dlayne · Post by **dlayne** » 16 Jun 1999 7:39 pm

Ricky could you tab out the turn around in Conways Lost In The Feeling?

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D.Layne

John Steele (deceased) · Post by **John Steele (deceased)** » 17 Jun 1999 5:32 pm

I might be all wet here, but for what it's worth, I wonder, Jack, if what you're hearing is a V sus chord, which then gets resolved a straight V chord. That would sound
a bit like a IIm chord.
I know I use a Vsus chord on the choruses of that song. We even sing out the sus chord in the background harmonies.
-John

Jack Stoner · Post by **Jack Stoner** » 18 Jun 1999 4:17 am

John, there's probably several different ways to get to the same point and probably any of them will work. From the comments I've got here and some E-mail there could be alternates to the IV chord in some spots.

Many times everyone in a band will agree that a certain chord progression is what is in a song and other times there's a lot of disagreement and you wonder what is correct.

Thanks to all.

b0b you can close this one